Ok, please be nice to me even though I'm posting about a blended scotch.
My main question is this: is JW Blue mostly a blend of Islay's?
Reason for asking: My scotch progression started with JW blends...Black to Red in the interest of saving money...Red to Black in the interest of saving taste buds, then to Gold and finally a single $28 shot of Blue. At this point, I bailed on JW and blends all together for the superior single-malt...which had a progression of Upper Highlands, Lower, Speyside, Islay...where I have stayed firmly planted. Now, since my tastes weren't adapted to it at the time...I wasn't impressed with JW Blue. But recently I was told that Blue is a blend if Islays, which caused my ears to perk a bit. Unfortunately, I don't wanna plop another $28 on a single shot of disappointment.
So...back to the main question...is it a blend of Islays and is it worth it?
thx,
Chad
My main question is this: is JW Blue mostly a blend of Islay's?
Reason for asking: My scotch progression started with JW blends...Black to Red in the interest of saving money...Red to Black in the interest of saving taste buds, then to Gold and finally a single $28 shot of Blue. At this point, I bailed on JW and blends all together for the superior single-malt...which had a progression of Upper Highlands, Lower, Speyside, Islay...where I have stayed firmly planted. Now, since my tastes weren't adapted to it at the time...I wasn't impressed with JW Blue. But recently I was told that Blue is a blend if Islays, which caused my ears to perk a bit. Unfortunately, I don't wanna plop another $28 on a single shot of disappointment.
So...back to the main question...is it a blend of Islays and is it worth it?
thx,
Chad
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Sun, October 10, 2004 - 9:45 AMChad
The misconception that single malts are somehow more superior to blends is a misnomer. If JWBU was a blend of mainly Islay single malts (which is not), then wouldn't you like it even more? JWBU is a blend of roughly 17 different & rare whiskies (single malts and scottish grain). Many of these whiskies are very old, some as old as 60 years. This accounts for it's soft body and subtle flavors. This also accounts for it's high price tag! To answer your intial question, since a blended scotch usually adds island whiskies to it for depth, yes, JWBU does contain a percentage of Islay single malts, but because these malts are usually so big, if too much was used, it would kill the character of the Highland malts that make up JWBU as well. The most common island whiskies used in the Johnnie Walker blends would be Lagavulin (though with the current shortage, probably not much), Caol Ila and Talisker. I hope this helps you out and please, think of blends as just a different type of scotch (which it is) and enjoy it on the same level as you would a single malt. Cheers! -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Mon, July 23, 2007 - 9:36 AM<<The misconception that single malts are somehow more superior to blends is a misnomer.>>
Well. In many way I have to agree.... not that JWB is a great blend for the money - but something like Dimple or Chivas Regal is a VERY cheap scotch and dollar for dollar out punch a SMW
BUT !
Really - all SMW is blended. It is simply blended with Scotch from the same distillery... EVEN A SINGLE CASK is blended with water to adjust taste - within the range of legally qualifying as "scotch" which is at least 40% but I am not sure how high it can go... The strongest scotch I have has is 46% (I think)... -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Tue, July 24, 2007 - 2:03 PM"A SINGLE CASK is blended with water to adjust taste"
Not always. There are several undiluted single malts on the market, and not just single casks. Aberlour a'bunadh is an example, and usually runs about 60%. -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Tue, July 24, 2007 - 6:52 PM<<Aberlour a'bunadh is an example, and usually runs about 60%. >>
What is it like ? -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Tue, July 24, 2007 - 7:27 PMAberlour claims it's a modern recreation of what scotch tasted like back in the 1800s when Scottish distilleries couldn't afford their own oak and scavanged docks in England for abandoned sherry casks. They release it in "batches", with Batch 18 being the current release.
Personally, I love it. On the surface, it's a big, intense sherry-style malt, but underneath is a wide range of complex flavors interacting with each other. I think I like so much because every time I pour a glass, I find something different. Sometimes spicy, sometimes rosey.
If you like sitting down and picking a scotch apart, a'bunadh is well worth the $65. Just make sure you add enough water, because the high abv will kill your palette.
www.aberlour.com/abunadh/ -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Tue, July 24, 2007 - 8:29 PMOkay and thanks
I will start the hunt for it !
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Tue, July 24, 2007 - 2:05 PM"think of blends as just a different type of scotch (which it is) and enjoy it on the same level as you would a single malt."
Well said. There's a time and a place for every whisky... -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Thu, July 26, 2007 - 9:30 AMAgain, well said. A little further though...in every place there is a time for a good whisky. Tomorrow I will be in the French Quarter in New Orleans and I am certain the time will arise in that place.
"May the best ye've ever seen
Be the worst ye'll ever see..."
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Mon, September 24, 2007 - 8:47 AMI may be wrong here but from what I've been told by the johnny walker brewmaster, here in san francisco, the gold and the green are both pure malts, and have no grain alcohol in them... personally of the JW series the gold is my favorite, and I do think it's fucking fantastic.
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Thu, September 27, 2007 - 2:23 AM
Both Blue and Green have "Pure Malt" on the bottle (NOT "Single"... )
I dont have the others to check....
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Thu, April 3, 2008 - 11:55 PMYeah, the gold is terrific, and I can't stand red or black. Got a bottle for $45 on a cruise. :-> Blue, OTOH, I had in F on a LH flight JFK-FRA and it knocked my socks off it was that good. I wouldn't spend $ on it, but if it's on the menu and already included in the price, or I can have Talisker, are you kidding me? Anyways, my favorites, for comparison are Aberlour 15 year, Oban 14, and Glenfiddich 15 solera. Ok, Dewars 12 is outstanding for the price.
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Thu, March 6, 2008 - 12:24 PMJW Blue is indeed a great scotch, but for the buck I think JW Gold is a better buy. JW Gold is one of my favorite blends, and has had a good reception from everyone I've served it to. I have found blends to be great when you want to sip on a scotch but not contemplate it, just enjoy it. When I drink a good single malt, I lose interest in everything else around me and get lost in the dram. -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Thu, March 6, 2008 - 12:38 PMJW gold is my favorite, though I have never had JW premium, the next one after blue. -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Thu, March 6, 2008 - 3:49 PMI like the JW Blue and Gold well enough, but my favorite is the Green (I have only ever found it at the duty-free shop in Heathrow). Soft and peaty in the nose and mouth with a warm, peppery finish. -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Fri, March 7, 2008 - 3:18 PMcheck out the Scottish store in Sf on Sutter. Was there today and saw a bottle of green.
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Fri, March 7, 2008 - 3:53 PMGreen was released into the US 2 years ago.. I was at the release party.. you can get it almost anywhere now.
Take a drop.. put it in the palm of your hands.. rub together... make a cup with your hands... over your nose.. and inhale deeply. Amazing experience. -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 3:36 PMGreat news about Green being available in the US. I'm ordinarily quite the single malt snob, but I did like this dram an awful lot. -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 5:42 PMThe only one that can be a little hard to come by in Melbourne Australia is Swing - all the rest are here in most bottle shops..
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Thu, April 3, 2008 - 11:57 PMYou have a lot to learn kid. Nothing wrong, per se, with a blend. Think of it as scotch polyamory. I wonder if it'd be possible to do a "flash mob" blind scotch tasting here in S.F.... -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Fri, April 4, 2008 - 3:47 PMIn my mind, the sole purpose of a blend is for creating things like Rob Roys. They aren't really intended to be drunk on their own, LOL.
The only other blend I've found that I like (besides JW Blue and Green) is the Highland Park Centenary, which is from 100 different casks of their own stuff. -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Sat, April 5, 2008 - 4:03 PMScotch belongs in your mouth, not your mind.
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 12:06 PMMy objection to Walker Blue is that they manipulate the taste to get a level of consistency that can best be compared to McDonald's goal of consistency. It's going to be identical year to year bottle to bottle.
While I won't say they failed to produce a fine scotch, and I can't say that what they do is bad, they haven't got one that I want.
And while it is true that the single malt makers also manipoulate their product to be consistent with the distillery's signature taste mush of the maniopulation is the water the still the methods and the raw ingredients. Walker will purchase a finished product to modify theirs.
I prefer a slightly wilder product. Maybe it's all in the mind.
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Tue, April 8, 2008 - 5:47 PMCliff-
You're saying Blue is not worth the price tag?
What do you prefer?
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Wed, April 9, 2008 - 4:09 PMand Laphroaig adds food coloring...
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Wed, April 9, 2008 - 6:16 PMWhich...doesn't bother me in the least. -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Wed, April 9, 2008 - 11:04 PM<<and Laphroaig adds food coloring... >>
Really ? I did not know that... for some reason I am disappointed - but it would never stop me from buying it :) -
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Fri, April 11, 2008 - 9:25 AMI, too, was disappointed when I found out. Coloring doesn't affect the taste. I think it would be cool to see how the color changes from bottle to bottle, would add more individuality to each bottle.
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Re: Johnnie Walker Blue question...
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 11:14 PMThat's awful. When Scottie said it was green, he wasn't talking about scotch. Food coloring? WTF???
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